Well let me see, his shares were dwindling down sometime back, so what makes you think he's not selling. My guess, which is easy to come by, is he's selling, who else, not me. He got his shares for nothing, so it's all profit. I wish he would sell them all and be gone, I don't care where the share price is right now, I hate Swartz, he did nothing for this company. A few shareholders could of came up with the cash he gave PTSC, he's nothing but a loan shark, he looked at all angles before he came to his own rescue. What a fool Gifforn was, is and always will be. The good news is there's plenty of time for Groener and crew to make this work, right now a lot of things could be happening behind the scenes, the market sucks now so it's a good time to working on new ventures which sounds like Patriot is doing.